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- #: 118698 S10/Paranormal Issues
- 18-Jul-87 14:12:52
- Sb: MUFON Conference (1/6)
- Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
- To: All
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- The MUFON Symposium in Washington was billed as "The Woodstock of Ufology,"
- bringing together some of the biggest names in the field, and in that respect,
- it didn't disappoint. In most other respects, however, it left a little to be
- desired.
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- Some of the luminaries in attendance, which yours truly got to "Commune" with:
- Whitley Strieber, Budd Hopkins, Bill Moore, Stanton T. Friedman, Jamie
- Shandera, Gary Kinder, Peter Gersten, Charles Hickson (of Pascagoula fame),
- Kathy Davis (of Intruders fame), Dr. Michael Swords, Dr. David Jacobs, Walt
- Andrus, and organizer Dr. Bruce Maccabee (and oh, yes, this little bald-headed
- fellow named Klass.) What made it more enjoyable was seeing some of my friends
- there, such as Hal Starr and Marge Christenson of Arizona MUFON, Tracy Torme'
- (who is making quite a name for himself in the abduction field, and is doing
- some excellent work on the Travis Walton case), Tom Adams of Project Stigma,
- and ParaNet users Dale B. Wedge, Rick Dell'Aquila, and Clark Matthews.
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- I spoke briefly with Whitley, asking him why, if he never had an interest in
- UFOs prior to his experience, his cousin would send him a book called "Science
- and the UFOs" just before his first remembered abduction. His answer was
- basically, "I can't explain it, its just one of those things." I can't tell if
- he's trying to look more honest by including information could lessen his case,
- or if her just really IS that honest. But one thing has become quite clear,
- thanks to an incident that occurred at the symposium: Whitley Strieber is
- mentally unbalanced. During a panel discussion with other "abductees," Strieber
- began reading from his polygraph transcript (which, it is a matter of record,
- he passed.) In the middle of it he turned to Phil Klass, who was standing near
- the stage, and began shouting the questions and answers at the top of his
- lungs, looking for all the world like he was going to become unglued. It was a
- very uncomfortable moment.
- Most people agree with me that Strieber is not firing on all thrusters,
- including...well, I won't name names. But the question arises as to whether he
- wrote "Communion" because he's bats, or he became bats because of what happened
- to him. I think it was the latter. Studies show that if the abduction
- phenomenon is real, it is happening to thousands of people (!). So far the case
- for abductions has been hung on the victims being sane, sober individuals, but
- the odds are that not ALL of them will be completely stable. It is possible
- that Strieber was a man who was on the edge to begin with, and his present
- quirkiness (there are MANY other incidents, which I am not at liberty to
- divulge) is a consequence of having undergone a profoundly mind-shattering
- experience. I've met other abductees, and I sometimes wonder how any of them
- can deal with ordinary everyday reality, go on talk shows and speak calmly,
- etc. I would be doing the paper dolls routine in a rubber room somewhere.
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- A couple of Klassy stories: After the first presentation (an overview of the
- past 40 years by David Jacobs), I stepped outside for a cigarette and was
- joined by the arch-debunker himself, who is nearly a chain-smoker. We started
- talking about MJ-12, and he gave me his line about how people who distribute
- phony documents should go to jail. I put him on the spot, asking him if that
- meant that I should go to jail, having made the MJ-12 documents available to
- more people than anyone (through ParaNet and CompuServe). Without directly
- answering, he said that Moore and Shandera should stand trial if it can be
- shown they had any way of knowing the documents were fake (assuming they ARE
- fake, of course.) By this time, we were surrounded by 30 or so people, and a
- man stepped forward and asked Klass of he had ever met Shandera. Klass said no,
- he hadn't, whereupon the man stepped aside and there stood Jamie Shandera, arms
- folded, ready to do battle. Klass ran and got his tape recorder and camera, and
- proceeded to interview Jamie for about a half hour, during which time both men
- became abusive -- "That's not a pertinent question! Why don't you ask me a
- pertinent question?!" "I WILL ask a question if you'll shut your big fat
- mouth!" When it was over, there were more people standing around the two men
- than were inside listening to the speaker. Several people recorded the
- conversation, and Hal Starr is currently running dupes of the tape in his
- production studio for distribution to a couple of dozen people. It was a
- classic, historic confrontation, which Bill Moore later dubbed "The Comic
- Opera."
- 18-Jul-87 14:13:57
- Sb: MUFON Conference (4/6)
- Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
- To: All
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- Another Klassic: At a panel discussion on government documents, the focus of
- which was MJ-12, Moore related to an audience of about 200 that Jamie Shandera
- (pronounced SHAN-derray) had interviewed Steven Spielberg, who told him a
- fascinating story. Prior to the release of the move "E.T.," Ronald Reagan had
- requested a private screening in the White House. When it was over, Reagan
- walked over to Spielberg, clapped him on the shoulder and said, "My friend,
- there aren't six people in this room who know how true that movie is." From the
- back of the MUFON audience, a semi-audible voice said, "Carter was President."
- Shandera, who was sitting behind me, turned around and said, "What was that?
- Speak up!" Klass stood up dramatically, poised to strike a death blow, and
- said, "In 1978, Jimmy Carter was President of the...." Moore cut him off with
- "E.T. was released in 1982, Mr. Klass. You stand corrected....AGAIN!" The
- audience exploded with applause, and Klass sank slowly back to his seat, a
- defeated man -- for the moment, anyway.
- [Continued]
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- #: 118702 S10/Paranormal Issues
- 18-Jul-87 14:14:27
- Sb: MUFON Conference (5/6)
- Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
- To: All
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- As I said, the event was an overall disappointment in terms of actual
- information content. Most of the speakers were from the far corners of the
- earth, and spoke with heavy accents about sightings in their respective
- countries. We've had forty years of sightings, and most Ufologists are
- realizing that the data-gathering stage is practically over, at least as far as
- disks and lights in the sky are concerned. Its time to get on to the questions
- of who and why, and who else knows about it. That's why the panels on documents
- and abductions were so popular. There are movements afoot on several fronts to
- get the abduction ball really rolling. For instance, Peter Gersten has formed a
- group called Contact, with which he hopes to raise money to do in-depth
- investigations into abduction cases -with the ultimate goal of making actual,
- overt contact with the aliens. I had hoped to sit in on one of their meetings,
- but unfortunately, Gersten left the conference early and no meeting was held.
- And it was reported that Whitley Strieber has put up seed money to form another
- group with the same goal. Both gentlemen are very concerned with the fact that
- Budd Hopkins is absolutely swamped with letters from people around the world,
- desperately seeking hypnotic catharsis for their abduction experiences -- over
- 700 letters at last count! The frustration lies in the fact that one of them
- just might hold the key that unlocks the whole mystery, but there are maybe a
- dozen people in the entire world that have the expertise to bring it out. I
- foresee abduction regression clinics springing up around the country, with
- quack operator getting into it for a fast buck. (Can you see some Beverly Hills
- type..."Let's see, I have a 10:00 appointment at the hairdresser, at two I see
- my therapist, at four my abduction regressionist, then I get rolfed....")
- [Continued]
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- #: 118703 S10/Paranormal Issues
- 18-Jul-87 14:14:47
- Sb: MUFON Conference (6/6)
- Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
- To: All
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- The one thing that impressed me most of all about the symposium, and about the
- resurgence of Ufology's popularity in general, is the number of quite
- intelligent, articulate, and down-to-earth people who are starting to become
- interested. There are actually others like myself who are skeptics and
- disbelievers in other fields, but who recognize that this is a whole different
- ball game from spoon-bending and Creationism. A glance at the MUFON Board of
- Advisors shows that that body has more holders of Doctorates, percentage-wise,
- than CSICOP! True, there is still no shortage of kooks, cranks, quacks, and
- crooks, but the ratio is shifting noticeably. I think it is the most heartening
- sign of this whole, crazy summer.
-
- And what a crazy summer it is! Unlike its namesake, the Woodstock of Ufology
- promises to be only the beginning of a series of revelations, accusations, and
- perturbations, the end result of which is ANYONE's guess. There's only one
- thing we need right now, to really put the icing on the cake: a good,
- old-fashioned, jaw-dropping, jet-scrambling FLAP!
-
- Keep your eyes on the skies......
-
- Jim